Mr Robot – How is hating yourself true power?

So I started watching a new show last week called Mr Robot. I am hoping many of you have seen it since it is already past the second season and if you have I would love to get your thoughts on the below scene. If you have not seen the series no worries, there are not any spoilers here. Feel free to watch the clip and let me know your thoughts as well.

YouTube source: channel: Morgan Burkensteck

I haven’t been able to decide what I think of this scene. What I think is being said is once you truly hate yourself you no longer care what happens to you, what other people think of you, or really much of anything. I suppose that is a form of freedom and is the power the man is referring to in the clip. Once you no longer care about anything you are free to do anything because the consequences do not matter to you…

This is as far as I can go with that line of thought because I always come back to the idea that hating yourself is the strongest form of unhappiness. I have always believed the strongest forms of depression, misery, and sadness at their core all stem from disliking and even hating who you are as a person. So I cannot imagine anyone wanting to embrace such a level of hate, I cannot fathom not wanting to escape such a pit of misery so I cannot see how it is a lasting source of power…

What are your thoughts? What lesson or concept do you think the show is trying to teach with this scene?



  1. Don’t think I’ve seen this episode yet, but this character is seems unhappy in this scene. It looks like he’s crying, even as he’s smoking. So his mantra speaks for the tragedy of his character; it’s not a mantra that others should to live by. But his psychology is so warped that he can’t even see how bad a mantra it is that he’s suggesting Elliot should live by. That’s how I see it anyways

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  2. The creator of the show, Sam Esmail is a freakin genius. He and the other writers and directors throw in these sorts of changeups all the time – dubious characters and questionable decisions they make. I really think it’s to keep viewers on their toes. There is a moral core to be found, but the creators do their best to leave it up to us to find it, or even determine for ourselves what it is. It’s noble… I might be giving them too much credit. But I really like this show. Some episodes will really knock your socks off, like Episode 4 of this season: Master-Slave. That was a really good one.

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  3. I remember this scene. And I remember thinking that it truly isn’t a strength; it is a heartbreaking. It is something to work upon. When you hate yourself so much that you don’t care what you do or let it reach that point, it is self destruction. Generally, you like yourself enough to try to do better. You may hate certain things you do, but it helps to motivate to overcome (hopefully). This scene, when I first saw it, made me pause and flat out say “No. That is completely wrong.”

    And saddened me because there wasn’t someone to help him say “No,” or to even offer a contradiction. Or something. Because It has been a bit since I saw that scene… and I am going off of memory. (At a place where I cannot listen to it right now.)

    Still, I wish there was someone there to offer a voice to just be the “no.”

    Brilliant series though! So well done. Intense. I really need to continue. I think I am on like the third of fourth episode. Maybe fifth. Golly.

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    • It truly is a powerful statement but it seems like everyone agrees it is a incorrect or disillusioned one. An ealier comment mentions how his use of drugs during the scene offers a bit of a contradiction to his claim that this hate is a source of power. I also think it lends credit to he being disillusioned.
      You gotta keep going! I see myself finishing the first season this weekend ha!

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  4. Just watched the episode and immediately Google Drive the quote before coming across your ideas which for the most part seem accurate. However, you are missing one thing: When one no longer truly cares about consequences, he no longer feels empathy, not even for himself. As such, there is no longer an infinitely deep hole of depression…he becomes free of that side-effect as well.

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